This is a definite must-read article.
Between Joe Wilson and Jimmy Massey, it's clear to me that Massey is
lower on the scum scale. This man goes around and lies about his
experiences as a soldier in Iraq. How he and others went around and
killed innocent Iraqi civilians. His book is called "Kill, Kill, Kill."
Jim
Massey is seriously stupid. Did he think that he could go around and
spread his lies without anyone checking on his statements? That no one
like Ron Harris, a reporter from the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, would
also be present during his tour of duty? Unbelievably idiotic and
desparate. What desparate souls our media driven society can create.
What a sad life.
Michelle Malkin has some great commentary and a summary of links here. Also she has posted the transcript from CNN's interview with Ron Harris:
Former
Marine Staff Sergeant Jimmy Massey has published a book in France
called, "Kill Kill Kill." It accuses U.S. soldiers of atrocities in
Iraq, including the killing of civilian men, women, and children.
Our
next guest says Massey is lying and he can prove it. Joining us now is
"St. Louis Post" dispatch writer Ron Harris. He was embedded with Jimmy
Massey's unit in Iraq. Welcome, Ron.
RON HARRIS, "ST. LOUIS POST":
Thank you. COSTELLO: You know, if this guy is lying, that's just vile.
Because he's saying some vile things about our men and women over in
Iraq.
HARRIS: Yes,
that's very true. I mean, he is claiming that marines intentionally
killed civilians, that he intentionally killed civilians. And at times,
he claims that they intentionally killed civilians based on orders from
the superiors. And the fact is, it just isn't true.
[CAROL] COSTELLO:
OK, let's get to specifics now. He claimed, as you said, that Marines
fired on and killed peaceful Iraqi protesters and were sometimes
ordered by higher-ups to do that. How can you disprove that?
HARRIS:
Well, two or three things. Number one, I was there in Iraq when -- I
was in Baghdad when we initially pulled in. I was with Massey's unit. I
was embedded with the unit, as were three other -- four other
journalists, actually. And we went to that prison and I was there the
next morning.
And not only did I not see any protesters, nobody
saw any protesters. And not for weeks. Because during that time, it was
a very, very dangerous period. It was basically four kinds of Iraqis.
There were Iraqis who were happy to see the marines. There were Iraqis
who were shooting at the marines and me, too, and the other
journalists. There were Iraqis who were looting and that was probably
what we saw most of. And there were finally Iraqis staying at home
because they were afraid.
COSTELLO:
Yes, but Ron, if there was completely untrue, I mean, this guy has made
it into pretty big publications like "Vanity Fair." He's written a book
that's bee published in France.
HARRIS:
Oh, it's been published everywhere. Nobody -- in not one publication or
not one broadcast, is there any corroboration. It's just Jimmy Massey's
story. Nobody ever called a journalists who were covering him. Nobody
ever interviewed the marines, which I did all of. Nobody ever checked
his story. They don't even have another source that says on background
or another source who didn't want to be quoted. It's just Jimmy
Massey's story.
COSTELLO:
Well, let's face it -- let's say these stories were true. Would the
marines -- wouldn't be forthcoming about that. Oh, yes, we killed
innocent Iraqi people. They're not going to admit that.
HARRIS: No,
no, no. That's not true. In fact, the marines, we were there embedded
with the marines. And the marines did shoot innocent civilians. And we
covered that. In fact, covered that -- the photographer with me, Andrew
Cartero (ph) shot pictures of innocent civilians who had been
accidentally shot by the Marine Corps. We wrote stories and Andy took
photographs of a British television crew that was shot and killed by
the Marine Corps on the second day of the war.
COSTELLO:
Well, Ron, let's go to some of those photos. We have one photo that
this photographer took, and it shows two women who are bloody. You say
this further disproves Jimmy Massey's story. In what way?
HARRIS:
In that case, Jimmy Massey claimed that a 4-year-old girl was shot in
the head. That was the particular shooting incident. In fact, there
were civilian shot in that car by Marines. Nobody died.
Andrew
Cartero, again, the photographer for "The Post Dispatch," took those
photographs. And as you can see in those pictures, there are people
there. Nobody died. I talked to the medic who treated them. And I
traveled with him for more than a month, Petty Officer Justin Poviance
(ph). He told me nobody died in that incident.
COSTELLO:
Well, let's go to one other picture, and this is really gruesome. So I'
going to warn people to turn away if you want to see it. But this a
tractor trailer. Jimmy Massey says it was filled with women, children
and men. What do you say?
HARRIS: We
were there. Those are photographs by Andrew Katraro. I saw it. Michael
Phillips from "Wall Street Journal" saw it. Robbie Nesbit (ph) from
Associated Press saw it. Those were men on a military base who had been
killed by U.S. artillery, but there were no women or children in those
tractor trailers. Those tractor trailer were used as sort of a
makeshift morgue. They were refrigerated trucks, and they had been
killed by American bombing. Initially the military thought that they
had been killed by Saddam Hussein. They thought maybe it was a war
crime.
COSTELLO: OK, I have to ask you this before I have to let you go.
HARRIS: OK.
COSTELLO:
Why would this staff sergeant, Jimmy Massey, lie about these things,
and say such terrible things about his own comrades?
HARRIS:
Well, one of the things that has happened -- number one, Jimmy Massey,
I don't know why, but I can just speculate a couple of things. Number
one, Jimmy Massey was honorably discharged for post- traumatic stress
syndrome. The second thing, Jimmy Massey has profited off of this. He
does have a book. He has a Web site in which he sells his story on a CD
for a hundred dollars. I think it's called jimmymassey.com. So it's
been profitable for Jimmy Massey to keep telling this lie.
COSTELLO: Ron Harris from the "St. Louis Post Dispatch," thank you for joining us this morning.
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